Since prop 8 lost I am hearing a new argument about marriage
Why is the state involved in marriage anyway?
Marriage is not merely a function of the state. That is true only in terms of continuing our civilization. Marriage is the same around the world for centuries. Homosexuality isn't new but gay marriage is a recent invention. Alexander the Great didn't marry his male lover. Since he could pretty much do whatever he wanted, I wonder what restrained him? Most likely tradition alone. It just isn't done. Because it doesn't make any sense. People still think that way. (On another note - Most people agree in 30 states except for writers like this guy. This is horribly written opinion piece with slurs in every paragraph for those he personally disagrees with.) You cannot separate marriage from the state. The connection is more than collecting nominal fees. No one goes through this much trouble for $50. The state has a vested interest in marriage. The proof is in the examination of alternatives. If you removed the state from marriage and all of the advantages that the state gives to married people then were would be? If you want to visit people in the hospital and pass on property to someone other than a spouse than those legal rights already exist. Just go get them. Yes, married people get them automatically. That is one reward from the state. What is the vision of married (without the state)? Where do people get married (without the state)? Who can get married (without the state)? What rights are transferred to married people (without the state)?
Why is the state involved in marriage anyway?
Marriage is not merely a function of the state. That is true only in terms of continuing our civilization. Marriage is the same around the world for centuries. Homosexuality isn't new but gay marriage is a recent invention. Alexander the Great didn't marry his male lover. Since he could pretty much do whatever he wanted, I wonder what restrained him? Most likely tradition alone. It just isn't done. Because it doesn't make any sense. People still think that way. (On another note - Most people agree in 30 states except for writers like this guy. This is horribly written opinion piece with slurs in every paragraph for those he personally disagrees with.) You cannot separate marriage from the state. The connection is more than collecting nominal fees. No one goes through this much trouble for $50. The state has a vested interest in marriage. The proof is in the examination of alternatives. If you removed the state from marriage and all of the advantages that the state gives to married people then were would be? If you want to visit people in the hospital and pass on property to someone other than a spouse than those legal rights already exist. Just go get them. Yes, married people get them automatically. That is one reward from the state. What is the vision of married (without the state)? Where do people get married (without the state)? Who can get married (without the state)? What rights are transferred to married people (without the state)?
On the news, it showed the protest going on and someone with a sign that said "mormon hate out of my state"
ReplyDeleteThey tried to turn it into a "rights" or "hate" issue and they go on emotion, so their arguments just don't add up.
That is how I see it in my simple brain
I heard of that from friends in California. Dennis Prager covered this well in his column
ReplyDeletehttp://townhall.com/columnists/DennisPrager/2008/10/21/opposition_to_california_proposition_8_hate_in_the_name_of_love